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vmlopes
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check these out

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: spoiling Reply with quote

I wondered if there was another way to handle this?

Im not sure how effective it is if you report theses items to Ebay but is there a way to 'sell' a link to the real database on this site. but instead of selling you actually placethe real link in the description. so in effect you are selling nothing but actually advertising the link.

obviously this will cost something but it might be worth a try.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selling or advertising links is against eBay's Ts & Cs.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren,

Have you considered making the full database available only to those that contribute to it / make a donation? This is the model used by Guillaume & co at www.gpspassion.com for the French database. He makes a cut-down version freely available - listing around 1000 cameras, but the full listing - 6000+ cameras - is only available to those that help out either financially or by improving the database.

Being an altruistic kind of guy, I'm an active contributer of camera locations, and a paypal donater. I don't expect everyone to do this, and this doesn't bother me unless they are taking advantage of my altruism for their own reward.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're considering a number of options. Initially we will shortly move to a system that requires you to become a registered member before you can access the download.

Other options including a nominal fee may be tested at some stage (and it would be nominal, perhaps £1 per update) but we haven't made any firm decisions in that respect.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
We're considering a number of options. Initially we will shortly move to a system that requires you to become a registered member before you can access the download.

Other options including a nominal fee may be tested at some stage (and it would be nominal, perhaps £1 per update) but we haven't made any firm decisions in that respect.


Cannot see how either of those options will stop the abuse, people will just use a hotmail account or similar for free, and charging will not stop it using PayPal, they will pay the £1 fee here and still try and sell 10, 20 plus copies and still make a profit.

You could use a Ecommerce company that provides credit & debit card transactions on your behalf then you would have access to all the names and addresses of people who can then download the data base, an annual fee of say £12 would raise some useful site revenue.

It could then be a registered data base and anybody selling it else where could be reported for fraud.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aah yes, this reminds me of the good ol days with Stalin und da boyz where you can expect that 4 o' clock-in-the-morning-knock-on-your-door 8O if you don't toe the party line... :D
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBob wrote:
Aah yes, this reminds me of the good ol days with Stalin und da boyz where you can expect that 4 o' clock-in-the-morning-knock-on-your-door 8O if you don't toe the party line... :D


Please tell me he is joking - I am never awake to go and "kneecap" anyone at that time of the morning.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SimonCatlin wrote:
Please tell me he is joking - I am never awake to go and "kneecap" anyone at that time of the morning.

I read that Stalin quip at 6am this morning and having just re-read it I'm still none the wiser!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is suggesting, just lie Stalion, we find out who these "scum" are, knock on their door and show them the errors of their ways.

In Stalin's time, that meant trips to Siberia and in some cases, not even making the trip out of the front room and into a wooden box for the worms to munch on you...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Ebay sellerse Reply with quote

Just found another one

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£9.99 on buy it now!!! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK Speed/Safety Camera database for your GPS system
Instant download, full instructions supplied Item number: 5802169694

price: £9.99

Quantity: 10 available

Latest UK Speed Camera database for just about all GPS systems!!!
Never get caught by the speed cameras again!!**
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kjba wrote:
UK Speed/Safety Camera database for your GPS system
Instant download, full instructions supplied Item number: 5802169694

price: £9.99

Quantity: 10 available

Latest UK Speed Camera database for just about all GPS systems!!!
Never get caught by the speed cameras again!!**

Thanks for the report, I've removed all the additional stuff which we don't need, just the Item Number will do Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Item number: 5802538980
Item number: 5799708813
Item number: 5802565218
also when i bought my pda off super e trader i had a floppy disk off them with the latest speed camera software.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Item number: 5802482833
Item number: 5802486140
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