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Nezza42
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Displayed speed - how accurate? Reply with quote

My car is a Japanes import that has had the speedo face converted from kmh to mph, trouble is, it isn't very accurate, over-reading by upto 10mph or more!

I was wondering how accurate the speed display on my Go 500 is likely to be, any ideas?????

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it's accurate to 0.1 mph!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My go normally shows a few mph below my speedo ie go 66 speedo 70 but remember the gos info will be a few seconds slow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been said here before that "If you are driving a UK vehicle you will find that your car speedometer will report a higher speed than the GPS speed."
Something like +10%, minus 0% was mentioned.
So its very loikely that the Go is the accurate one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, as Andy says, speedo's in the UK do over-read. I believe they must by law be within +/-10% so to allow for manufacturing tolerances, tyre wear, etc. they will never be spot on. Also, the manufacturer is always likely to err on the side of over reading as a) it keeps you on the "safe-side" of the law, i.e. you're actually going slower than you think you are! and b).....it makes their car look faster than it is!!!!!

This stacks up, I've checked against the speedo in my Vauxhall (UK car) & it's approx 10% higher than the Go. When I check against my Nissan (import) it's a fairly consistant 10mph above the Go between 40mph & 80mph (on the speedo)

Where does the figure of +/-0.1mph come from?!?!?!?!?!?!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful about specifying ± for vehicle speedometer accuracy for UK based vehicles. The speedometer must never under read the speed and can over read the speed by as much as 10%.

On a horizontal road (i.e. no slope), travelling in a straight line, and at a constant speed, your GPS speed will be far more accurate that your vehicle’s speedometer.

However please remember that the SatNav may take as long as one second to report your speed, so as soon as you change either your speed or direction you will have a delay until your speed and direction (i.e. velocity) is constant.

If you are travelling up or down a slope then you are travelling in 3D as opposed to 2D and thus that will add an error to the calculation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nezza42 wrote:
Where does the figure of +/-0.1mph come from?!?!?!?!?!?!


This is what most GPS chipset manufacturers quote as an accuracy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very accurate alongside police laser and radar equipment, I can assure you Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So as far as speed cameras and radar traps are concerned what happens if my speedo say I am doing 60 and they zap me staing I was doing 62?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOG wrote:
So as far as speed cameras and radar traps are concerned what happens if my speedo say I am doing 60 and they zap me staing I was doing 62?


As has already been stated, your speedo shouldn't under-read. It's up to you to ensure your vehicle meets legal requirements.

Then again, there's always a case for questioning scamera evidence. Wouldn't try the same with a uniformed officer and hand-held radar gun thouugh.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you say, a speedo should never underread as supplied by the manufacturer, but if the wrong profile tyre is used, then theoretically it can happen or in the case of a motorbike, a change to the gearing on the chain sprockets may change the speedo reading too.

Using the GPS on a level road at a constant speed seems to me to be an excelant way to verify and/or calibrate your speedo.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOG wrote:
So as far as speed cameras and radar traps are concerned what happens if my speedo say I am doing 60 and they zap me staing I was doing 62?


You will be nicked for speeding and for having a faulty speedo. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question So I have just bought a new Jeep so I can safely presume the speedo is accurate?

Where does one go to check if it is calibrated correctly then?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOG wrote:
Question So I have just bought a new Jeep so I can safely presume the speedo is accurate?

Where does one go to check if it is calibrated correctly then?

If you have a GPS or SatNav system that displays the speed then you can check the speedometer against the GPS reading on a horizontal road (i.e. no slope), travelling in a straight line, and at a constant speed. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No HOG, you can safely assume tat your new Jeep speedo is inaccurate!.

Privateer has given the best and most accurate explanation of the speedo debate.

In fact, if you drive so that you travel at the speed limit according to your vehicle speedometer you will never get a speeding ticket. I only wish I had listened to my own advice when I was younger!!!!!
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