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  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:17 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
only one thing is for sure here and thats pocketgps own the data and the database

Pocketgps own the copyright solely to the database not the data

cant handle that fact then seek council


I ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:04 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
As regards the copyright and to as who owns the data, surely by uploading submissions /Corrections etc. you are agreeing for that information to be added to the database otherwise why upload it in the ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:47 am   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
True again....However if as you contend the raw data cannot be copyrighted then the raw data can be taken from the database and used for whatever purpose by anyone.

Obviously we have taken advice o ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:34 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

Obviously being a reasonably long standing member and a contributor, I have to say that the fact that those members have not contributed over once does not suprise me at all, in fact in my area I fi ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:14 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

When we started we initially built up the database core from the scant information that was available in the public domain but it might be useful information to know that out of the entire safety ca ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:08 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
True again....However if as you contend the raw data cannot be copyrighted then the raw data can be taken from the database and used for whatever purpose by anyone.
Now how do you realistically expec ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:43 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

the raw data *cannot* be copyright.


Yet Pocketgps claim ownwership and copyright of the data?


What can be copyrighted is the creation of a collection of data that is presented in a certain ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:29 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
updating and collating the speed camera database.

does not give them ownership of the data provided to them despite their claim to copyright of it.


At the end of the day if you do not wan ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:57 am   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
I would be interested to receive an answer from Pocketgps to this.
Do Pocketgps regard the data supplied by forum members as being covered by copyright or not?
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:19 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
How about an agreement for a copy of the data (as is at the last download) to be made available to forum members (those who originally produced the data), to maintain and update in whatever amateurish ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:04 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
I do hope the Pocketgps team have taken legal advise on this matter, as I have now been informed by a solicitor that there are breach of contract issues here.
Basically in the original discussion abo ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:19 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

Just because the individual data is freely available doesn't mean that the compiled data has to be given away free. Electoral roll data is freely available to anyone who wishes to view the public r ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:15 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
In this case ALL the third party data contributed to the database is protected by copyright.

This is just not true. For something to be copyright it has to be a unique creation in some way. Just r ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:47 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional

unfortunately these things happen! it's publicly available data (anyone can get co-ords for a fixed point on a street) so very hard to prove ownership.

MaFt

So how can Pocketgps sell something ...
  Topic: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
TheBoyGroucho

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Views: 386961

PostForum: News And Latest Information   Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:29 pm   Subject: Speed Camera Database to Turn Professional
I would note that the camera location data that I provided (free of charge) in the early part of this project is automatically covered by copyright and I expressly refuse its use on any commercial pay ...
 
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