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doodallybloke
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:02 pm    Post subject: Garmin Downloads in the POI Section Reply with quote

Have just tried to DL some of the free POI's here on this website in the Garmin .csv format to update my recently acquired 2699, and they are all coming down without any descriptions and/or locations just a load of Tel No's and in certain cases a load of 'mumbo jumbo'. All the Lat/Long numbers appear to be there Ok....... whilst accepting I haven't a clue where each location actually is. Its just the locations and names etc., that are completely missing.

I have noticed this previously but have converted a few from the TT ov2 format over to the Garmin .csv format by using the excellent POI Editor as all of the DL'ed TT .ov2 formats are coming down spot on. Everything in there.

Anyone else had or is having this problem, or is it just me? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which ones so we can have a look?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The truth is that its any/all of them regardless. To prove the point this morning I did DL the first 5 in the ATM section....... that's the A's and the B's, in .ov2 TT format and they were fine. Places names Lat/Long etc etc. All great exactly as they should be. Did the same in the Garmin .csv format......... again the first 5 in ATM section, and its just a mess in there. That applies to each of the 5 ATM's downloaded.

I don't require these particular ATM's but just wanted to prove a point. The way I am currently doing the conversion (which is EXTREMELY laborious) is to DL in TT format and convert each POI over by using POI Editor. So if I have 30 POI's from here then that means 30 .ov2/.csv conversions with the Editor. Just cant believe that its just me. I mean all you do is press the DL button in the relevant format don't you really?

Who makes up these POI lists? Do you think they should be made aware? Do they read these posts or can they be contacted? Definably something wrong with the .csv section of Dl's.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just downloaded the ATM file and it is perfect. Think something must be wrong your end?

You do realise it's a zip file that needs extracting I assume?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well wish I knew. I mean all you do is press the DL button and you get a downloaded .zip file. How can it be wrong here? What about all the online stuff that I DL. Nothing wrong with any of that!

Whether the POI is in or out of the .zip file, POI Edit will open it. Either way in the .zip file or out it remains the same......... just Tel No's, blank spaces and so on. TT format is perfect.

This Garmin Sat Nav changeover from TT is proving to be a load of work and that's a fact,
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm not seeing what you're seeing so something is wrong somewhere. Are you able to post a screenshot so we can see what you're talking about?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Are you able to post a screenshot so we can see what you're talking about?

No problem 'sussamb' but cant see anywhere to attach picture. So the Q is... how do you do that? Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use PhotoBucket
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you viewing the csv files in?

This is what I get:

sample from Barclays
Code:
-1.96621,51.71679,"Cirencester",""
-1.90404,51.54207,"Wootton Bassett",""
-3.53828,52.44809,"Llanidloes",""
-3.40094,52.14963,"Builth Wells",""
-3.38993,51.94692,"Brecon",""


sample from Bank Machine
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-3.62769,57.6076,"Forres, Greshop FS BP, 24hr Free","+441309676605 "
-1.60903,53.8052,"Armley, Wyther Park SPSO, not Free",""
0.88913,52.35307,"Barningham, Church Rd SPSO, Free",""
-1.75314,53.80499,"Bradford, Canal Rd SS, free",""
-2.93237,54.8746,"Carlisle, McColl's SPSO, not free",""


Which are the correct format for Garmin - longitude, latitude, name, description.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Combining sub-categories also works as expected:

Code:
-2.78679,57.44706,"Bank of Scotland ATM, Huntly, Gordon St",""
-2.72455,56.05784,"Bank of Scotland ATM, North Berwick, Bank St",""
-5.53569,50.1193,"Barclays ATM, Penzance, Market Jew St",""
-5.48132,50.21206,"Barclays ATM, St Ives, Bedford St",""
-5.42149,50.18392,"Barclays ATM, Hayle, Foundry Sq",""
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[list=]Penzance, Market Jew St -5.53569 50.11931
St Ives, Bedford St -5.48132 50.21206
Hayle, Foundry Sq -5.42149 50.18393
Camborne, Chapel St -5.29931 50.21355
Helston, Coinagehall St -5.2759 50.10071
Redruth, Fore St -5.22844 50.23316
Penryn, Market St -5.10391 50.16841
Newquay, Bank St -5.08273 50.41353
[/list]

The above is what I get in the TT .ov2 format. Its perfect

[list] -5.53569 50.11931
-5.48132 50.21206
-5.42149 50.18393
-5.29931 50.21355
-5.2759 50.10071
-5.22844 50.23316
-5.10391 50.16841
-5.08273 50.41353

This lot is the same Banks (see Lat/Long detail) but in the downloaded Garmin .csv format. No location, name.... nothing. All these Lat/Long being on the extreme right of POI Edit program. All the rest is blank. Some POI's are nothing but jumbled up nonsense. On all .csv POI DL's however the Lat/Long stuff is always there.

I am using POI Edit to open and close the POI's and POI Editor to do the .ov2 to .csv conversion. When it does the conversion it comes out exactly the same in the .csv format as the original which was in the TT .ov2 format.

The above are only 8 examples are from the POI 'Barclays Bank'. Now you can understand my exasperation !

I have no ideal if this post will come out as I haven't done such text inclusions before. Hope it does
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't need to use any third party program. My guess is that they are stripping off the commas and detail.

Download the POi's again and open them in Windows Notepad to see what they contain.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doodallybloke wrote:

This lot is the same Banks (see Lat/Long detail) but in the downloaded Garmin .csv format. No location, name.... nothing. All these Lat/Long being on the extreme right of POI Edit program. All the rest is blank. Some POI's are nothing but jumbled up nonsense. On all .csv POI DL's however the Lat/Long stuff is always there.

I am using POI Edit to open and close the POI's and POI Editor to do the .ov2 to .csv conversion. When it does the conversion it comes out exactly the same in the .csv format as the original which was in the TT .ov2 format.

The above are only 8 examples are from the POI 'Barclays Bank'. Now you can understand my exasperation !

I have no ideal if this post will come out as I haven't done such text inclusions before. Hope it does


Have you tried actually just installing the POI files to the Garmin and taking our word for it that ten of thousands of downloads confirm that they work?

And, as Kremmen suggests, if you DO need to view the content, just open the file in Excel or a plain text editor like Notepad.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thanks to all who have responded. It is much appreciated.

I think I shall just load some Garmin POI's into this new Garmin 2699 of mine. Some POI's which I know are local and just see whether they show up. Maybe increase the size of the attached .bmp so that I cannot fail to notice them. The ATM section would be an example, say Barclays and maybe HSBC. I know there are loads of those in and around Bristol.

Still cannot understand as to why the names and locations are not showing up in POI Edit but as 'MaFt' has suggested if they do show in my new Sat Nav then perhaps it shouldn't be a problem. We'll see.

Thank you again to all who tried to help. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you have POI Edit configured to be Tab delimited or some other delimiter other than comma. That would possibly cause truncation of the file.

The comma delimited files can be viewed in Excel, if you have it, or Notepad and can be edited in both.

POI Edit is for advanced manipulation and conversion which being as you have a Nuvi is not required.
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