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Darren
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 Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: TomTom adds weather data in route calculations |
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TomTom announced on Wednesday that they will be adding weather data to the route information provided via Tom-tom Traffic.
Now, not only will you get warnings of traffic jams on your route but also information about traffic issues caused by adverse weather.
TomTom claim they are the first company to use real-time weather data when calculating routes and ETAs.
Source: tomtom.com/traffic
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As I understand TT Traffic, information about mobile phone movements (or not) is converted to Traffic info, so I'm not sure that it makes any difference why there's a Traffic Jam, slow moving or stationery traffic is / should be reported regardless of cause.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Weather downloads may be of use in some more extreme conditions.
I would have thought having both a more up to date complete data set of fuel prices available for downloading when not travelling and an up to date partial fuel download relevant to the current route when travelling on a route would be of more benefit. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| mike37 wrote: | | Weather downloads may be of use in some more extreme conditions. |
Yes, that'd certainly be in hurricane-hit America.
| mike37 wrote: | | I would have thought having both a more up to date complete data set of fuel prices.... |
I'd prefer more map data, such as distinction between B roads and C roads and farm tracks. (This would help the absurd turn here instruction on a B road bend where a farm lane happened to be straight on).
And I'd certainly much prefer up-to-date notification on road closures. Round the Thames area, last year's floods caused roads to be shut that TT totally ignored.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| navtrav wrote: | I'd prefer more map data, such as distinction between B roads and C roads and farm tracks. (This would help the absurd turn here instruction on a B road bend where a farm lane happened to be straight on).
And I'd certainly much prefer up-to-date notification on road closures. Round the Thames area, last year's floods caused roads to be shut that TT totally ignored. |
Yes, but that sort of bread and butter vital stuff ("Keep right and don't go into the layby") is not going to be attractive to the marketing department, is it? With weather, they can make quite a song and dance about "more". It's pure hype, but sounds good.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| DennisN wrote: | | It's pure hype, but sounds good. |
I can see a couple of circumstances where weather info could be uselful in planning routes- if heavy frost/snow predicted then keep to gritted routes
- when roads are liable to close because of snow/flooding then avoid them if such weather predicted
But I suspect it will be more if snow predicted it adds x minutes delay on this road type info and that is probably already showing in traffic data.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| Are TT going to predict the weather then or display the actual? As weather is a fairly slow moving thing, I suspect that you would probably better off by looking at the weather forecast on TV the night before. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| M8TJT wrote: | | Are TT going to predict the weather then or display the actual? As weather is a fairly slow moving thing, I suspect that you would probably better off by looking at the weather forecast on TV the night before. |
Judging how often the predictions change on the Met Office website since they updated it with hourly slots you're probably better off just rolling some dice
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Both methods would probably be more accurate than TT  |
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But neither of them will get TT any publicity, whereas shouting about doing weather on their TomToms will certainly fool a lot of the people a lot of the time!
You heard it here first - we shall shortly be seeing posts asking how you can buy the weather service for your TomTom, or if the weather service is available on the xx model. They do it with cameras, why not with weather?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I take it will be updated daily shortly after 6.30 pm after the evening news weather forecast.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Wrong!
It is included with the traffic service which is updated every two minutes. A marketing executive's blue heaven!!
"TT Traffic is updated EVERY TWO MINUTES and now includes weather".
Gimme, gimme, gimme. I wish I could do this with whitevanning!
Oh, I forgot to add that they may need to reduce the horizon further, in order to accommodate the extra data download. 
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They will probably reduce the horizon to about the same as that which you can see by looking out of your window.
I really can't see the point. If the weather causes a hold up then the normal traffic should show the delay and route accordingly if you want it to. Does anyone really care what is causing the hold up? |
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Quite so. But they won't ever mention that the horizon has been reduced.
I really must start shouting that I can deliver goods using a van with a human driver. 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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If you use Waze on Android, that has weather information on routes input by users, so TomTom are not the first.
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