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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject: Open Sight design uses laser navigation to aid cyclists Reply with quote

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A novel solution aims to solve the safety issues with traditional devices such as smartphones, cycle computers and navigation devices which dictate the rider takes his or her eyes off the road ahead in order to read the display.

Open Sight looks like a high-end cycle computer but uses laser technology to paint route guidance information, and other data such as speed, on the road ahead. Power is provided by the rider via a generator.

This isn't the first time we've seen lasers deployed in this way, another solution was proposed for use in cars, but this is the first cycle mounted and rider powered device we've seen.

It's an interesting solution but it exists as a concept design idea only and it's not readily apparent how this solves the safety issue, the information would need to be painted quite some distance ahead of the rider for it allow them to take in the surroundings as well. I suspect that any laser powerful enough to work in daylight would also require considerable amounts of power?

Source: YankoDesign.com

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yanko Design's slogan 'Form Before Function' sums it up very neatly.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you need a laser when you have the arrow on the display on the screen in the same line-of-sight?!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illegal to have non white or yellow light showing to front of a vehicle. so its a non starter
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Illegal to have non white or yellow light showing to front of a vehicle. so its a non starter


Easy enough to change it to a white/yellow laser?

It's also illegal to have flashing lights as the main light on a pedal bike but that doesn't seem to bother any cyclists nor the police.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's also illegal to have flashing lights as the main light on a pedal bike but that doesn't seem to bother any cyclists nor the police.

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Not any more, a specific law allows flashing white and red lights on pedal bikes. Strangly enough constant on lights need to have CE approval marks but flashers don't!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmole wrote:
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It's also illegal to have flashing lights as the main light on a pedal bike but that doesn't seem to bother any cyclists nor the police.

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Not any more, a specific law allows flashing white and red lights on pedal bikes. Strangly enough constant on lights need to have CE approval marks but flashers don't!!

Pity the poor people who are vulnerable to flashing lights. Sadly bicycle lights are very broad beam and I recall once being thoroughly alarmed at the flashing of oncoming bikes on a country lane.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmole wrote:
Illegal to have non white or yellow light showing to front of a vehicle. so its a non starter


Provided it's not red, flashing or moving you may have any colour showing on the front of a vehicle hence the craze for blue LEDs in washer jets, front grilles, side lights.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spook51 wrote:
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Illegal to have non white or yellow light showing to front of a vehicle. so its a non starter


Provided it's not red, flashing or moving you may have any colour showing on the front of a vehicle hence the craze for blue LEDs in washer jets, front grilles, side lights.


Road traffic act specifically restricts the use of green and blue "warning lights" to specific vehicular users (doctor on call, emergency services, ambulances, rescue vehicles) doesnt mention flashing at all

Plenty of jack the lads get section 59's or whatever the number is for the silly LEDs. You would have to argue in court your led wasn't a "warning light"
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989:

13.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which automatically emits a flashing light.

16. No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with–
(a) a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or
(b) a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

Someone else can read the rest of it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, 16 makes blue lights of any sort illegal and the paragraphs afterwards cover green and yellow (although yellow is less restricted)

I was an Ambulance Service Vehicle Officer for quite a few years. Not much I didn't know about the RTA and Construction and use regs then.

Even the Police don't seem to know them cos many of their unmarked cars just have lights in the grill and rear window. Construction and use requires warning lights to be visible for 360 degrees so these vehicles are illegally lit and any stop by them is invalid as they are not properly marked Police cars so you don't have to stop for them
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't the Road Traffic Act specifically bar cyclists from riding on the pavement? Doesn't stop the nearly mowing me down on a regular basis.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfectly legal to ride on the "pavement" as legally that's the tarmacked bit that the cars drive on. What is illegal is to ride on the "Pathway" which is the pedestrian area to the side

Agreed , it pees me off when they ride on the pavement irresponsibly. There are some places its safer to ride on the Pathway (not many), but in that case they should slow right down and give way to pedestrians even if its is illegal. and don't get me started on shared use paths

I cant win, I'm a cyclist and a 4x4 driver. I see bad road sense from both groups, especially cyclists who cant see a red lights or who ride at night in black clothes with no lights, and car drivers who cant overtake without cutting in on the cyclist cos they cant compute bikes doing 25mph as they assume they all do 5mph. The law say they have to be given 1.5 metres space not 1.5cm

Or the car drivers that toot cyclist who are two abreast!. Hey, its perfectly legal and what gives you more right to the road, the two of them are taking up 5ft wide and you on your own in a car are taking up 7ft
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madmole wrote:
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It's also illegal to have flashing lights as the main light on a pedal bike but that doesn't seem to bother any cyclists nor the police.

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Not any more, a specific law allows flashing white and red lights on pedal bikes. Strangly enough constant on lights need to have CE approval marks but flashers don't!!


Do you have a link for this? The last time I looked into it the law was that you can use flashing lights to alert of your presence so long as they were not your main lights.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to the 2005 RVLR amendment on 23 October of that year it finally became legal to have a flashing light on a pedal cycle, provided it flashes between 60 and 240 times per minute (1 – 4Hz).

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/2559/contents/made

Even better: it became possible for a flashing light to be approved, meaning no other light would be needed in that position. And since BS6102/3 does not cater for flashing, approval is granted simply on the basis of brightness (as specified above).

Because DfT very much prefer things to be evaluated against a proper technical standard wherever possible: any flashing lamp that is also capable of emitting a steady light is approved only if it conforms with BS6102/3 when switched to steady mode. Since most flashing lights do also have a steady mode, they're legal but not approved, so you'll probably need another lamp that is.
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