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MikeyF
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:05 am    Post subject: Acer, Destinator and Speed Cameras Reply with quote

Can someone help??

I'm relatively new to GPS & whilst I've read almost all the threads on this site that look anything like what i need I still can't find the answer.

I've downloaded a POI database for destinator and it's working fine. However this was from another site via a link on this site and the database seems a bit old. (Only 1 out of the 4 cameras near my house are showing).

Basically my question is how can I use the database on this site and convert to use with my Acer and Destinator software. (Destinator uses a dat file)

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the prompt reply. I'll try it later today.

Thanks again

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to be a pain mate, but I need your help again.

My destinator console is the upto date version 3.1.
However, it's not the professional version, thus (after reading the manual) it hasn't got the favourites import button.

Do you know how/where i can get this function/software.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey F, have you selected a map. The import option is greyed out until you do.

I dont have professional and my console is 3.1 too, but I can import
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying guys, but I don't even have a greyed out button.

The only options I have are 'install software', 'install/remove maps' & 'cut map'.

Would one of you mind sending me a personal message with your email addr so we can possibly make contact as this is driving me mad (excuse the pun).

Cheers

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I think there are some more answers towards the end of this thread:

http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18572

although I must admit that I haven't got it all working yet.

Cheers, Alan.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allycat,

YOU ARE A STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you very much, changed the 0 to 1 and hey presto the button appears.

Bloody germans, why do they have to make everything so complicated.

Cheers

Mike

ps. to site admin - You may want to put this comment in your instructions file on how to upload to acer, as there appears to be a lot of people who have purchased these lately.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why some systems work and some need a 1 but then that's the germans fault.

I've chosen to use the individual files as apposed to the one as this will warn me whats ahead not just something.

However, to do this I've had to rewrite a few lines of text in the
DestinatorVoiceManeuvers file.

Did you have to do this or have you gone for the 1 file??

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeyF, did you use the "New this month: csv files formatted for Destinator 3" versions of the files? If so, how about writing some step by step instructions (including the edits you made to the DestinatorVoiceManeuvers file)? If you do, perhaps some kind Mod will make it a sticky in the Pocket GPS Speed Camera Database forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still investigating a way to warn us of the individual file types, as my orignal attempt only inserted them as favourites and not alerts. Whilst this showed them on the display it didn't trigger a voice message that you could modify the warning distance so this is no go.

Whilst I have enclosed the instruction part I need one of the site's mods to contact me with an email address so I can send the voice message files. Also at this stage I can tell them to change the message on the bottom of the download page which says the site doesn't support destinator.

To be done each time there is an update (monthly).

Download the months updates from

http://pocketgpsworld.com/uksafetycameras.php

Extract the master file
(pocketgps_uk_sc.zip/single file version/csvfiles/destinator3/pocketgps_uk_sc)
from the zip file to a folder

Open the file using Excel
Save as Auto Alert 1 you'll get an error message, just ignore this.
Cut the red camera sections and paste this into another file and
call this file Auto Alert 2
You should now have 2 files
Auto Alert 1.csv - This contains all the camera's except red light cameras
Auto Alert 2.csv - This contains the red light camera's

Convert using Destinator console
To do this Open up the console and make sure the map is selected (UK_Ireland for Britian)
Click Favourites Importer
In the new window select the file you wish to convert
(you'll have to do this for Auto Alert 1 & 2)
(As most versions of destinator won't allow us to use the download function the next steps will have to be done manually)

Use windows to go to
C:\DestinatorApps\Installer\Console\IndepIndep\Favorites
(This is where the files are)
Transfer these files (Auto Alert 1 & 2 .dat) using pc into your pocket PC directory
\DestinatorApps\Destinator\Common\Favorites

You've now got the updated files

To be done as a One off to setup pocketPC

Copy the Auto Alert 1 & 2 bmp files into your pocketpc into the directory below
\DestinatorApps\Destinator\Common\Favorites

To enable the pocketpc to speak the correct warning,
you also have to insert a new DestinatorVoiceManeuvers and auto alert 1 & 2 wav files into
\DestinatorApps\Destinator\Common\Interface\Voice\All

Hope this helps all those Destinator users out there

MikeyF
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mikey. This needs to be made sticky.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Sound for 'Safety Cameras' Reply with quote

Follow the excelent instructions given by MickeyF
Then
I have adapted the file necessary to warn of Gatsos and Traffic Light cameras.The file is below in all its glory, all you need to do is copy and paste to wordpad and save as destinatorvoicemaneuvers.inf (Note Lower case filename)
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{:Standard Voices Maneuvers:}

LANGUAGE=ENG


//
// All the fields must be placed in one line. The fields will divided by commas.
//
// Fields description:
// 1) ::MC The maneuver command is a key word.
// 2) A command is being built from two parts (each part is a key word). The two
// parts will be divided by a * sign. The first part will describe the maneuver name
// (TURN_LEFT for example) and the second part will describe the distance
// (THIRD_DISTANCE for example).
// 3) For future use, (0 will be entered).
// 3) For future use, (0 will be entered).
// 4) to N) The words from which the sentence is built. Each word (or words) between two
// commas must refer to a wav files with the same name which exists in the same
// folder as the information file, (if a file or a command for that matter will not be
// found silent mode will be activated).
// The max value of N will be 13, (will allow a ten words sentence).
// N+1) The maneuver textual description, (will be written between quotation marks -
// commas are possible).

// FIRST_DISTANCE - three kilometers / two miles.
// SECOND_DISTANCE - five hundred yards/meters.
// THIRD_DISTANCE - two hundred yards/meters.
// FOURTH_DISTANCE - thirty meters, no distance will be specified.

::MC,TURN_LEFT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,t_l;3*2;UNITS,"Left turn 3/2 miles / three kilometers"
::MC,TURN_LEFT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,t_l;500;UNITS,"Left turn five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,TURN_LEFT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,t_l;200;UNITS,"Left turn two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,TURN_LEFT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,t_l,"Turn left"

::MC,TURN_RIGHT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,t_r;3*2;UNITS,"Right turn 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,TURN_RIGHT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,t_r;500;UNITS,"Right turn five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,TURN_RIGHT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,t_r;200;UNITS,"Right turn two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,TURN_RIGHT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,t_r,"Turn right"

::MC,KEEP_LEFT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,k_l;3*2;UNITS,"Keep left 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,KEEP_LEFT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,k_l;500;UNITS,"Keep left five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,KEEP_LEFT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,k_l;200;UNITS,"Keep left two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,KEEP_LEFT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,k_l,"Keep left"

::MC,KEEP_RIGHT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,k_r;3*2;UNITS,"Keep right 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,KEEP_RIGHT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,k_r;500;UNITS,"Keep right five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,KEEP_RIGHT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,k_r;200;UNITS,"Keep right two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,KEEP_RIGHT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,k_r,"Keep right"

::MC,EXIT_LEFT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,e_l;3*2;UNITS,"Keep left 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,EXIT_LEFT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,e_l;500;UNITS,"Keep left five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,EXIT_LEFT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,e_l;200;UNITS,"Keep left two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,EXIT_LEFT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,e_l,"Keep left"

::MC,EXIT_RIGHT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,e_r;3*2;UNITS,"Keep right 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,EXIT_RIGHT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,e_r;500;UNITS,"Keep right five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,EXIT_RIGHT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,e_r;200;UNITS,"Keep right two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,EXIT_RIGHT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,e_r,"Keep right"

::MC,U_TURN*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,u_t;3*2;UNITS,"U turn three 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,U_TURN*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,u_t;500;UNITS,"U turn five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,U_TURN*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,u_t;200;UNITS,"U turn two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,U_TURN*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,u_t,"U turn"

::MC,ROUND_ABOUT*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,circle;EXIT_NUMBER;exit;3;UNITS,"Take round about xxxx exit 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,ROUND_ABOUT*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,circle;EXIT_NUMBER;exit;500;UNITS,"Take round about xxxx exit five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,ROUND_ABOUT*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,circle;EXIT_NUMBER;exit;200;UNITS,"Take round about xxxx exit two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,ROUND_ABOUT*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,circle;EXIT_NUMBER;exit,"Take round about xxxx exit"

::MC,DESTINATION*FIRST_DISTANCE,0,0,app_destination;3*2;UNITS,"Approacing destination in 3/2 miles/kilometers"
::MC,DESTINATION*SECOND_DISTANCE,0,0,app_destination;500;UNITS,"Approacing destination in five hundred yards/meters"
::MC,DESTINATION*THIRD_DISTANCE,0,0,app_destination;200;UNITS,"Approacing destination in two hundred yards/meters"
::MC,DESTINATION*FOURTH_DISTANCE,0,0,destination,"You Have Arrived"


//
// All the fields must be placed in one line. The fields will divided by commas.
//
// Fields description:
// 1) ::MW The multiple word command is a key word.
// 2) A command is being built from two parts (each part is a key word). The two
// parts will be divided by a * sign. The first part will describe the command name
// RED_LIGHT_CAMERA for example) and the second part will describe the distance type
// DISTANCE_TYPE_800 for example).
// 3) For future use, (0 will be entered).
// 4) For future use, (0 will be entered).
// 5) to N) The words from which the sentence is built. Each word (or words) between two
// commas must refer to a wav files with the same name which exists in the same
// folder as the information file, (if a file or a command for that matter will not be
// found silent mode will be activated).
// The max value of N will be 13, (will allow a ten words sentence).
// N+1) The command textual description, (will be written between quotation marks -
// commas are possible).

::MW,POI_ALERT_1*DISTANCE_TYPE_1000,0,0,warn_gatso;warn_gatso,"Poi Alert 1"
::MW,POI_ALERT_1*DISTANCE_TYPE_800,0,0,warn_gatso;warn_gatso,"Poi Alert 1"
::MW,POI_ALERT_1*DISTANCE_TYPE_600,0,0,warn_gatso;warn_gatso,,"Poi Alert 1"
::MW,POI_ALERT_1*DISTANCE_TYPE_400,0,0,warn_gatso;warn_gatso,"Poi Alert 1"
::MW,POI_ALERT_1*DISTANCE_TYPE_100,0,0,warn_gatso;warn_gatso,"Poi Alert 1"
::MW,POI_ALERT_1*DISTANCE_TYPE_50,0,0,warn_gatso;warn_gatso,"Poi Alert 1"

::MW,POI_ALERT_2*DISTANCE_TYPE_1000,0,0,camredlight;camredlight,"Poi Alert 2"
::MW,POI_ALERT_2*DISTANCE_TYPE_800,0,0,camredlight;camredlight,"Poi Alert 2"
::MW,POI_ALERT_2*DISTANCE_TYPE_600,0,0,camredlight;camredlight,"Poi Alert 2"
::MW,POI_ALERT_2*DISTANCE_TYPE_400,0,0,camredlight;camredlight,"Poi Alert 2"
::MW,POI_ALERT_2*DISTANCE_TYPE_100,0,0,camredlight;camredlight,"Poi Alert 2"
::MW,POI_ALERT_2*DISTANCE_TYPE_50,0,0,camredlight;camredlight,"Poi Alert 2"


//
// All the fields must be placed in one line. The fields will divided by commas.
//
// Fields description:
// 1) ::SW The single word is a key word.
// 2) The single word definition.
// 3) For future use, (0 will be entered).
// 3) For future use, (0 will be entered).
// 4) The relevant single word. The word must refer to a wav file with the same name which exists
// in the same folder as the information file, (if a file or a needed word for that matter will not be
// found silent mode will be activated).
// 5) The maneuver textual description, (will be written between quotation marks -
//

// Spacify:
// 1) First maneuver followed by second maneuver, (1).
// 2) Second maneuver followed by first maneuver, (2).
// No distance will be specified.
::SW,FOLLOWED_BY,0,0,(1);followed_by,"...Followed by..."

// Will be described by the letters combination 'UNITS'.
::SW,METERS,0,0,meters,"meters"
::SW,KILOMETERS,0,0,kmeters,"kilometers"
::SW,YARDS,0,0,yards,"yards"
::SW,MILES,0,0,miles,"miles"

// Will be described by the letters combination 'EXIT_NUMBER'.
::SW,FIRST,0,0,first,"first"
::SW,SECOND,0,0,second,"second"
::SW,THIRD,0,0,third,"third"
::SW,FOURTH,0,0,fourth,"fourth"
::SW,FIFTH,0,0,fifth,"fifth"
::SW,SIXTH,0,0,sixth,"sixth"
::SW,SEVENTH,0,0,seventh,"seventh"
::SW,EIGHTH,0,0,eighth,"eighth"
::SW,NINTH,0,0,ninth,"ninth"
::SW,TENTH,0,0,tenth,"tenth"

::SW,TURN_LEFT,0,0,t_l,"Turn left"
::SW,TURN_RIGHT,0,0,t_r,"Turn right"
::SW,KEEP_LEFT,0,0,k_l,"Keep left"
::SW,KEEP_RIGHT,0,0,k_r,"Keep right"
::SW,EXIT_LEFT,0,0,e_l,"Exit to the left"
::SW,EXIT_RIGHT,0,0,e_r,"Exit to the right"
::SW,U_TURN,0,0,u_t,"U turn"
::SW,ROUND_ABOUT,0,0,circle,"round about"

::SW,YOU_ARE_OVER_THE_SPEED_LIMIT,0,0,yaotsl,"You are over the speed limit"
::SW,ROUTE_RECALCULATION,0,0,yhltcr,"Route recalculation"
::SW,GPS_SIGNAL_TOO_LOW,0,0,signallow,"GPS signal too low"
::SW,GPS_NOT_FOUND,0,0,gpsnotfound,"GPS not found"
::SW,START_NAVIGATION,0,0,startnavigation,"Start navigation"
::SW,REACHED_DESTINATION,0,0,destination,"You have arrived to your destination"
::SW,TMC_MESSAGE_RECIEVED,0,0,132,"TMC Alert"
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Do not copy the lines. They are there to help with copy paste only

Copy camredlight.wav, warn_gatso.wav from wav directory of unzipped file and the new destinatorvoicemaneuvers.inf from wav directory of unzipped file to Acer directory My Pocket PC/DestinatorApps/Destinator/Common/Interface/Voice/All

Then start Destinator and you will get a Male voice giving a double warning of 'Warning Gatso' for Gatsos and 'Warning Traffic light Camera ahead'.
I decided to use the double warning as it can be quite fast and you may miss the first one .

I will later be working on a possible solution to seperating all the files and having different warnings for Static/Mobile/Temp etc

I have my warnings set at 800 and 400 yards and this gives adequate warnings. Be careful as any cameras close together that fall within this distance may not give another warning but the pictorials show on the map.
I have renamed the two files in alternative bmp files\colville\
pocketgps_uk_gatso.bmp to Auto Alert 1.bmp
pocketgps_uk_redlight.bmp to Auto Alert 2.bmp
and pasted them in to Acer directory My Pocket PC/DestinatorApps/Destinator/Common/Favorites so now have Pictures that relate to Cameras etc show on map.
Have fun all. And hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I will later be working on a possible solution to seperating all the files and having different warnings for Static/Mobile/Temp etc "

how close are you to doing this?
as im sure it will be of a big help to all of us
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: More work Reply with quote

The problem seems to be that Destinator will only allow 2 Auto Alert files to be set.
I am tinkering with the ini files in the vain hope of getting it to allow more.
This is the main stumbling block.
I am fortunate that I have a Mobile Gatso and 2 statics within 1 1/2 miles (or is it unlucky Laughing Out Loud) so I can go test it failry easily. I also use a Laptop and re-programme as I am going along.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all

Well I was abot to buy a Snooper S3 when I was pointed to this site and I am glad I was. This is absolutely amazing.

I have managed this morning to import the POI files for the cameras etc as described by MikeyF. I know this is working as it shows the Gatso around the corner from me.

However, when it comes to the voice prompts, I am totally lost as to what I do.

Could anyone point me in the right direction on this or produce a fairly detailed guide?

Any help much apprciated.

Thanks
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