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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:02 pm    Post subject: Speed Camera Surprises Man Twice Reply with quote

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Dean Kenworthy, a 50 year old white van driver, got a shock when he realised that he was caught speeding at 57mph by a mobile speed camera.

His van, which was leased, was limited by law to 50mph in 60mph speed zones - a fact that he claimed no knowledge of.

Kenworthy already had 11 points on his licence and feared disqualification from driving.

He expressed his surprise and disbelief in the universal way of raising both his hands in the air.

His second surprise was that Humberside police captured an image of that precise moment - not having both hands on the wheel of a moving vehicle equates to failing to have proper control, a prosecutable offence.

Kenworthy pleaded guilty to both speeding and failing to have proper control of the vehicle, but wasn't disqualified from driving as the court heard that would cause him exceptional hardship, essentially removing his means of earning a living.

Three penalty points were added to his licence, he was fined 250, ordered to pay costs of 85 and a victim surcharge of 25.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder why there was a '25 victim surcharge' ... who was a 'victim' in this case?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another cowboy whitevanman who needs taking off the road. If he doesn't know the speed limit, he's not fit to be on the road. He'll be just another of those who believe it's OK to hammer down the motorway at 80 because it's only a mile over the tolerance, so heavily loaded that his headlights on dipped beam are blinding everybody else.

And he gets away with this for exceptional hardship. It would have been a very different report if he'd killed a poor innocent child, or a poor innocent father of five. He already had 11 points for goodness sake. Does that mean he's an innocent on the roads?

This was a WRONG result. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Wonder why there was a '25 victim surcharge' ... who was a 'victim' in this case?

You and I and a zillion other road users are the victims of this maniac whose speedo was probably reading over the car speed limit anyway. You would have been going on blues and twos to the scene of his victim later that day.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly agree he should have been banned, as you say he already had 11 points so clearly he's not learning any lessons, just can't see why he had to pay a victim surcharge Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it simply payment into a fund for the benefit of victims of crime and stuff? I think all fines nowadays also get an addition of some amount for victim surcharge?

Like value added tax? What value?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah that would make sense Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussamb wrote:
Ah that would make sense Embarassed


Just found this and you're right, it's mandatory ...

The Victim Surcharge, introduced in April 2007, is an ancillary order imposed by a court. Following changes introduced on 1 October 2012, it is payable when an individual is sentenced to a conditional discharge, a fine, a community or a custodial sentence in relation to an offence committed on or after that date. Offenders under the age of 18 as well as adults will be ordered to pay the Victim Surcharge, although at lower levels than adults, to reflect the differences in sentencing principles between adults and juveniles.

Revenue raised from the Victim Surcharge is used to fund victim services through the Victim and Witness General Fund
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As all government and council services are now or appear to be self funding why do we pay taxes ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have been banned. He's a serial speeder and mobile phone user. Danger to everyone on the roads

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The court heard Mr Kenworthy, of Castleford, West Yorkshire, was given three penalty points for driving while using a mobile phone in March 2011.

In June 2012, he was handed three points for speeding and last October he was given five points, again for speeding.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this case nobody was hurt or kiilled (by dumb luck) but this driver could now hurt or kill somebody by continuing to drive when he really should be banned. They didn't ban him becuase this would affect his income. Ah, Diddums!

Another excellent example of the system showing more concern for the wrongdoer than for his victims (actual or potential).

I wonder how the judge or magistrate who didn't ban him will feel if this joker kills somebody soon?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In common with most civil servants (allegedly), he won't give a toss.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He expressed his surprise and disbelief in the universal way of raising both his hands in the air.

That's not surprise and disbelief - it's firstly horror that he's been caught and secondly a complete set of asterisk words at the asterisks who caught him. What a good brief can do for you, innit? I wonder what speed limit zones he was in for the first two? I hope he has TomTom speed cameras!

Did anyone wonder why the earlier magistrates gave him 5 points for the second speeding offence - took him to 11 points, surely even a dumbo can count from 11 to 12 and know that next time it's the footway, not the highway? Any parent knows that if you threaten a child with consequences, they HAVE to get the consequences if they breach the rules again, otherwise it falls into disrepute and they ignore you. Why did he only get three points this time if last one was worth five? He didn't even get the maximum fine (1,000) this time! Painter and Decorator, 360 is a day's work for him.
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