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M8TJT
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 Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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You're right, it isn't rocket science. It would only require a different cam sub-set and a new icon.
As I see it, you have three choices.
1 Ask MaFt nicely if he would consider doing it possibly with some polite pretty pleases thrown in for good measure (MaFt is also a rocket scientist as well as a great database wizz kid)
2 Consider looking out of the window whilst driving
3 Do as I suggested above.
PS. I also think it would be a good idea.
PPS. I'm not thick either.I know how red speed cameras 'work' |
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aj2052
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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If you cant see a traffic light on Red then what chance have you got of seeing an icon on your Satnav. I know where I would place my importance.
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:04 am Post subject: |
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I would guess that the inclusion into the speed camera section is to keep the number of categories to a minimum as some PND's have folder limitations.
Personally I like it as it is which is to primarily warn of it's speed because I'm more likely to accidentally slightly overdo the speed rather than go through a red light.
If you do want to have your own separate category though you would need a small program to specifically separate out 'redspeed' from the Gatso files and then create your own icon and warning voice.
Nice weekend project 
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sussamb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: Re: speedcamera/redlight camera |
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| jacann wrote: | correct that is what I want because when the light is green it's a speed camera, and when it is red, its a traffic light camera therefore it needs a new
warning signs incorporating the two so you can that it is different from the Gatos, or the red light. can not be rocket science to do this |
This argument/discussion has gone completely over my head ... if there's a camera at a traffic light I'm just happy to know that, in fact thinking about it I'm not even sure I need/want any icon there. I don't go through red lights and therefore my speed on approach is never 'too fast' that I can't stop if the light changes. I certainly don't want to be trying to defend my actions having ploughed into another vehicle as I sped through a red light that ...
'it wouldn't have happened officer but the icon on my satnav wasn't the correct one'  |
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:29 am Post subject: |
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I can see what the OP wants.
There are speed cameras and there are redlight cameras each individually identified.
He wants the combined 'RedLight and speed' as a unique category.
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| Kremmen wrote: | | I can see what the OP wants. |
At last, someone else can see the cut and thrust of his request. | Kremmen wrote: | | If you do want to have your own separate category though you would need a small program to specifically separate out 'redspeed' from the Gatso files and then create your own icon and warning voice |
Like what I said. And at the moment it seems to be about 3:1 against having a separate category. But I'm biased because my iGO already has separate alerts for redlight and redspeed cameras. |
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Anita
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| M8TJT wrote: | | And at the moment it seems to be about 3:1 against having a separate category. |
Make that 4:1. I can see no point in having a separate category either. Red lights aren't exactly hidden! 
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Kremmen
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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5:1
I was just offering a solution
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Kremmen wrote: | | I was just offering a solution |
Like wot I did  |
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bmuskett
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| M8TJT wrote: | | At last, someone else can see the cut and thrust of his request. |
Oh, I could see the cut and thrust of their request, I just can't understand why they need it, and they haven't answered my questions.
As sussamb said, why would you need an icon there, the fact that the traffic lights are there in real life should be enough.
Count me against another category if I haven't already been included. |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| bmuskett wrote: | | I just can't understand why they need it, |
Because he does! |
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Rick-uk
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: speedcamera/redlight camera |
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| Rick-uk wrote: | | The fact that it is a traffic light dictates my speed and actions. |
Ah, but you may not spot the traffic lights and go through them on red as your satnav is telling you it's a speed camera there  |
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DennisN
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I noticed the interesting comment about Redspeeds increasing in numbers in London.
I have today deleted two pending submissions on the A406 North Circular, because they are NOT Redspeed, simply new Monitron type to replace older type of Redlight cameras.
I have a feeling some people are being confused by this - the location does NOT have the road marking ladders running through he junction, they are simply newer digital cameras.
Of course, my iPhone version of CamerAlert announces Redspeeds as redlight and speed cameras, complete with the operational speed limit.
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: speedcamera/redlight camera |
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| jacann wrote: | correct that is what I want because when the light is green it's a speed camera, and when it is red, its a traffic light camera therefore it needs a new
warning signs incorporating the two so you can that it is different from the Gatos, or the red light. can not be rocket science to do this |
What you are asking for is perfectly achievable, BUT it would not mean ONE more icon and camera category, but another SEVEN or EIGHT categories.
(You can't just have different icons, you need the separate POI category files for the icons to connect to)
In order to tell you the speed limit, fixed cameras need EIGHT category files for 20mph, 30mph, 40mph, 50mph, 60mph, 7omph, Variable limit and TBA (currently unknown speed).
That is why the complete download set for TomToms consists of TWENTY FIVE categories, (eight each for fixed, mobiles, SPECS and one for Redlights) or THIRTY THREE if you include another eight categories for pMobiles.
That's already starting to get unmanageable, so it was decided that there is simply no point adding another eight categories for RedSpeed cams, when it doesn't give you ANY more information.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.
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