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MikeyF
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:05 am    Post subject: Acer, Destinator and Speed Cameras Reply with quote

Can someone help??

I'm relatively new to GPS & whilst I've read almost all the threads on this site that look anything like what i need I still can't find the answer.

I've downloaded a POI database for destinator and it's working fine. However this was from another site via a link on this site and the database seems a bit old. (Only 1 out of the 4 cameras near my house are showing).

Basically my question is how can I use the database on this site and convert to use with my Acer and Destinator software. (Destinator uses a dat file)

Thanks

Mikey
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mikey,
This is how I do it.

Open pocketgps_uk_sc zip file
Open the single file version folder(this has all camera types in one file)
Open the file pocketgps_uk_sc
Once opened in Microsoft excel you will see the column names
Column A-longitude
Column B-latitude
Column C-name
Example; -2.47396 52.69573 GATSO:6381@30
Destinator console favourites importer does not like this format,
So you need to edit it to
Column A-name
Column B-name
Column C-longitude
Column D-latitude
Example; GATSO:6381@30 GATSO:6381@30 -2.47396 52.69573
Once edited save it as AutoAlert1 in a folder of your choice, on your pc, error messages appears when saving and closing down excel, click yes to all.
Once that’s done, start Destinator console,
Select a map, for example; uk_ireland
Go to favourite’s importer.
Select your autoalert1 file and press convert button.
Make sure your Acer is connected and then press download.
That’s it, sounds more complicated than it is.
Hope this helps you.
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MikeyF
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the prompt reply. I'll try it later today.

Thanks again

Mike
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MikeyF
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to be a pain mate, but I need your help again.

My destinator console is the upto date version 3.1.
However, it's not the professional version, thus (after reading the manual) it hasn't got the favourites import button.

Do you know how/where i can get this function/software.

Cheers

Mike
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im running the same version as you, 3.1 standard edition this is what i see on my destinator console, dont know why your version doesnt have favourites importer.
coudnt post a pic of my screen shots, so if you go here

http://spaces.msn.com/members/davetest

goto photo album titled 31 may and press the far right button under the small picture to show full screen shots.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s.
you need to be signed in to the msn passport service to view the pics.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey F, have you selected a map. The import option is greyed out until you do.

I dont have professional and my console is 3.1 too, but I can import
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying guys, but I don't even have a greyed out button.

The only options I have are 'install software', 'install/remove maps' & 'cut map'.

Would one of you mind sending me a personal message with your email addr so we can possibly make contact as this is driving me mad (excuse the pun).

Cheers

Mike
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I think there are some more answers towards the end of this thread:

http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18572

although I must admit that I haven't got it all working yet.

Cheers, Alan.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allycat,

YOU ARE A STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you very much, changed the 0 to 1 and hey presto the button appears.

Bloody germans, why do they have to make everything so complicated.

Cheers

Mike

ps. to site admin - You may want to put this comment in your instructions file on how to upload to acer, as there appears to be a lot of people who have purchased these lately.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

had a look at my default.ini file and my POIImport is set at 0, yet i still have the favourite import button. anyway glad your sorted now mikey, dont forget to adjust the alert distance settings otherwise it will only tell you about the gatso when your right next to it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why some systems work and some need a 1 but then that's the germans fault.

I've chosen to use the individual files as apposed to the one as this will warn me whats ahead not just something.

However, to do this I've had to rewrite a few lines of text in the
DestinatorVoiceManeuvers file.

Did you have to do this or have you gone for the 1 file??

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did use the individual files at first, but now i just have the all in one file, i dont really speed anywhere but i like to know that if there is something even a temp camera or specs i can watch my speed a bit closer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeyF, did you use the "New this month: csv files formatted for Destinator 3" versions of the files? If so, how about writing some step by step instructions (including the edits you made to the DestinatorVoiceManeuvers file)? If you do, perhaps some kind Mod will make it a sticky in the Pocket GPS Speed Camera Database forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still investigating a way to warn us of the individual file types, as my orignal attempt only inserted them as favourites and not alerts. Whilst this showed them on the display it didn't trigger a voice message that you could modify the warning distance so this is no go.

Whilst I have enclosed the instruction part I need one of the site's mods to contact me with an email address so I can send the voice message files. Also at this stage I can tell them to change the message on the bottom of the download page which says the site doesn't support destinator.

To be done each time there is an update (monthly).

Download the months updates from

http://pocketgpsworld.com/uksafetycameras.php

Extract the master file
(pocketgps_uk_sc.zip/single file version/csvfiles/destinator3/pocketgps_uk_sc)
from the zip file to a folder

Open the file using Excel
Save as Auto Alert 1 you'll get an error message, just ignore this.
Cut the red camera sections and paste this into another file and
call this file Auto Alert 2
You should now have 2 files
Auto Alert 1.csv - This contains all the camera's except red light cameras
Auto Alert 2.csv - This contains the red light camera's

Convert using Destinator console
To do this Open up the console and make sure the map is selected (UK_Ireland for Britian)
Click Favourites Importer
In the new window select the file you wish to convert
(you'll have to do this for Auto Alert 1 & 2)
(As most versions of destinator won't allow us to use the download function the next steps will have to be done manually)

Use windows to go to
C:\DestinatorApps\Installer\Console\IndepIndep\Favorites
(This is where the files are)
Transfer these files (Auto Alert 1 & 2 .dat) using pc into your pocket PC directory
\DestinatorApps\Destinator\Common\Favorites

You've now got the updated files

To be done as a One off to setup pocketPC

Copy the Auto Alert 1 & 2 bmp files into your pocketpc into the directory below
\DestinatorApps\Destinator\Common\Favorites

To enable the pocketpc to speak the correct warning,
you also have to insert a new DestinatorVoiceManeuvers and auto alert 1 & 2 wav files into
\DestinatorApps\Destinator\Common\Interface\Voice\All

Hope this helps all those Destinator users out there

MikeyF
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