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Huge Threat to Dedicated Satnavs Confirmed


Article by: robert
Date: 9 Feb 2011

pocketgpsworld.comThe strong challenge to the standard portable satnav device from mobile apps such as those offered by iPhone and Google Android has been anticipated ever since the first GPS enabled smartphones hit the market many years ago.

Fast forwarding to today, a survey claims that 82% of smartphone navigation app users would be unlikely to buy a dedicated satnav. It is widely anticipated that this figure will continue to grow rapidly.

Over 5,000 users of ALK’s CoPilot Live navigation apps were surveyed also revealing that 65% of respondents use CoPilot Live at least once a week. This flies in the face of the belief held by some that smartphone navigation is only for occasional use or as a back-up for a dedicated satnav.

“This survey is concrete evidence that smartphone navigation is a direct threat to dedicated devices” commented CoPilot's marketing director David Quin. “Full-featured apps like CoPilot Live now provide the same advanced guidance features and detailed maps of a high-end satnav on a wide range of handsets, and that for the majority, there’s no going back. As smartphones reach mass market penetration it is inevitable that the dedicated device will become the niche product.”
Comments
Posted by Duddy on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:39 pm Reply with quote

True, in my opinion.

I still have my TT One but only as a backup (why throw a working device!!! away) for my HTC Desire (Android 2.2) running CoPilot Live 8 with PGPSW speed cam.

The big advantage is it's all in 1 device and I don't have to leave my SatNav in my car when I park. The dashboard holder is obviously for a phone and as such it is not expected to find the device in the car when parked.

The smartphone is also so much more flexible than a SatNav... MP3 player, memo device, dictaphone etc, etc etc + phone.

I don't think I'll ever purchase a dedicated SatNav again.. sorry TT


Sony Xperia Z3 compact
CoPilot 10 with CamerAlert
TT One v2 (RIP 2016)
RoadHawk in-car video
Reading glasses getting thicker
Retired but want to go back to work for a rest.

 
Posted by xtraseller on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:23 pm Reply with quote

While I can see the advantages, I would disagree

Owning among others an iPhone4 with Navigon and Live Traffic enabled together with a Mio Mount with Speaker, GPS and Bluetooth is fine

If my eye sight was bionic, the navigation wasn't constantly interrupted by calls and the buttons just too small to use quickly

I would (do) throw my latest Sat Nav in to its mount, its on and running with GPS fix in less the a few seconds, and the address do, calculated and ready to go

If I was stuck I would be happy with my iPhone4 as a GPS, but given the choice as I am, never. If my Sat Nav broke tomorrow I would immediately get another (or use one of the spares!)

The survey doesn't target the right audience - they asked SmartPhone owners who run Sat Nav Apps if they would buy a Sat Nav - I guess the fact they fall in to that category in itself (and I know I do) means they are in the most likely category not to have a dedicated unit and / or use sat nav often (I call often multi-trips per day, not around once per week)

For me, the future is in-car systems entertainment systems running your choice of sat-nav app. Easy to view with a decent size screen, no volume issues, no theft issues, and easy to update - TomTom and Garmin are already heading down that route with built in units, now the manufactures need to install Android / WP7 etc in car head units


TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
Garmin DriveLux 50, D-Smart 70, NuviCam, 3598, 2699, 2798
Mio Navman 695
Nexus 6p, Apple iPhone 6sPlus and Microsoft Lumia 950xl running TomTom, Garmin, CoPilot, Navigon, Sygic, Here Drive, Google, Waze, MS Maps

 
Posted by Pocketgps on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:34 pm Reply with quote

xtraseller Wrote:
While I can see the advantages, I would disagree


And so would I.


 
Posted by 253 on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:42 pm Reply with quote

Well, I think the dedicated satnav is dead as well. But it's probably still got a few years in it yet.
For myself, if going on a planned journey I would use the TT720. Caught short, I'd use the phone.
Not going to buy a new satnav though, both the 710 and 720 both with 'old' maps work fine and probably will do until they expire (or I do) Shocked

Cheers, Bob


Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100 as well.

 
Posted by Kar98 on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:00 pm Reply with quote

Well, color me weird, but when I moved from a sat nav application on my phone to a dedicated PND, it felt like an upgrade. Larger screen, easier to use, better speaker. And that's from TomTom on the phone, to a 4.3" TomTom One, to a TomTom 9*0.


 
Posted by Andy_P on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:18 pm Reply with quote

Not having a smartphone... What actually happens if you're using one as a sat nav and the phone rings?
Do you lose audio instructions, visual instructions, camera warnings, or all or none of the above?


"Settling in nicely" ;-)

 
Posted by PaulB2005 on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:35 pm Reply with quote

Depends. Some like Tomtom can "push (text) notifications" whilst in call. I.e. Turn instructions are displayed as text instructions on screen over the top of whatever is currently on screen.

The NDrive I use from time to time just dies as it doesn't support multitasking.

Not that I "know". Currently waiting for my 740 subs to run out in September before buying TomTom app. Just read lots.


 
Posted by MaFt on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:42 pm Reply with quote

News Team Wrote:
a survey claims that 82% of smartphone navigation app users would be unlikely to buy a dedicated satnav. It is widely anticipated that this figure will continue to grow rapidly.

Those darned statistics again! Rolling Eyes
I wonder what percentage of PND users, when surveyed, would be "unlikely to buy satnav software for a mobile device" - I would hazard a guess at a similar percentage.

News Team Wrote:
Over 5,000 users of ALK’s CoPilot Live navigation apps were surveyed also revealing that 65% of respondents use CoPilot Live at least once a week. This flies in the face of the belief held by some that smartphone navigation is only for occasional use or as a back-up for a dedicated satnav.

hardly... it actually means that just over half of the owners of copilot use it at least once a week. that is all. nothing more, nothing less. perhaps those that use it once a week use it when their tomtom fails them? thus actually proving that it is a back-up for a dedicated satnav.

News Team Wrote:
“This survey is concrete evidence that smartphone navigation is a direct threat to dedicated devices” commented CoPilot's marketing director David Quin.

no it doesn't...

News Team Wrote:
“Full-featured apps like CoPilot Live now provide the same advanced guidance features and detailed maps of a high-end satnav...”

yes, but what about all the extra features like voice control, 3rd party pois, 3rd party (accurate) speed cameras, OBDII integration for engine management etc, large screens/buttons to name a few. satnav on a mobile phone is useful, but i would never rely on it solely for navigation, particularly on a long trip.

MaFt


MaFt®

 
Posted by zebsogo on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:01 am Reply with quote

I'm an iPhone 4 user and love the Navigon SatNav app. For me using the app on a daily basis is great but, all it did was wet my appetite for a full blown Standalone. So have purchased a Navigon 70 Premium Live unit an now couldn't be happier.

Yes the iPhone app works great with out doubt and it is handy to have it on my phone at all times. But the standalone has more features and a nice large screen. I'm one of those guys that will always prefer a standalone. A smatphone version for me is a substantial appetizer but a standalone unit is the main meal


--
Navigon 92 Premium Live,TomTom Go 6000,Garmin 2699 LTM-D and a TomTom Go 1005 Live ( For the wife )

 
Posted by Andy_P on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:09 am Reply with quote

MaFt Wrote:

Those darned statistics again! Rolling Eyes


Especially as the poll was done by (or for) CoPilot themselves. Hardly an independent survey!


"Settling in nicely" ;-)

 
Posted by BigPerk on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:14 am Reply with quote

Hi zebsogo - do you use Voice Assistant for voice control of the functions (ie Voice Assistant set on 'Full' control? If so, could you say (over on Navigon 70 thread to avoid OTT here!) whether it works ok without problems? If not, what problems?

Many thanks


David
(Navigon 70 Live, Nuvi 360)

 
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